I saw the interview that he is referring to, Jim certainly wasnt impressed when the Presenter referred to him as A Manchester United Fan from Oxford. So much so he must have stayed up all night writing that to make himself feel better
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I saw the interview that he is referring to, Jim certainly wasnt impressed when the Presenter referred to him as A Manchester United Fan from Oxford. So much so he must have stayed up all night writing that to make himself feel better
exactly thats my point. If this money helps us shut up my arrogant rag mates then thats all i'm arsed about. You wouldn't know what i'm talking about woods as u have never lived in manc
I'm not alright Jack, as City aren't my team. I support Rovers who over the last two seasons, I think, have spent the least in the Premier League, and given our results that's a stat to be proud of.
I personally wish football wasn't so money driven, I wish players would have more loyalty and I wish there was more English youth from the academies coming through the ranks at top level. I'm a realist though and can appreciate that unfortuately none of that is gonna happen any time soon with the way football is now. As such, without starting up some action group to change things, I'm just gonna enjoy the footy, and the footy for me will be more enjoyable without the same 4 teams winning everything. I don't mind City being the one's to change that as it's just more of the soap opera that is City IMO - what will happen next with them!
jus a reminder to one n all. keep things civil and shiz or il get me dog on ya
Back off you , anyone would think your in charge around here lol
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LOL Good point ! Bought the fucking title out of nowhere
I guess at least whatshischops sunk the cash coz he loved the club...I wondered when someone was gonna mention thatYour team started it
Thing with Jack was he was a proper fan rather than someone with no interest in the club - I've heard Abu Dhabi United for instance tried to buy Arsenal, Liverpool and Newcastle before settling on Man City, plus the money he put in wasn't that different to other clubs - 2 other clubs outspent us in the year we won the title I believe. Plus he spent massive amounts on infrastructure at the club, not just on players, especially the academy, so that can't be a bad thing.
But it's true Jack was probably the first to put serious money of their own into a club to get a huge transformation.
fuck off scousers `and fuck off rags. Your not entitled to be the best and if you knew your history then city were bigger than you both at one point.
Times change and your not the richest any more so pick your dummies up
Times change and your not the richest any more so pick your dummies up
Aint tryin be arsey - but were city once bigger than utd - im only 32 and cant rem. Also googled it - no results... :S
city were by far bigger than united. Check the attendances and the Billy Meredith era b4 we got done trying to bribe our way to the title. Also check when united nearly went bust and city put on charitable events to help save them
Every Dog has its day, after all the crap us Blues have put up with, no semi final appearence since 1981, no trophys, its about time we can enjoy some succes no matter who owns us,
The new owners speaking for the first time, watch out the "big" clubs, they mean business
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Posts: 65 I hope this wasnt posted on this forum if it was apologies
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It is a Liverpool fan posting on a Man City Forum.
Excellent read and really makes you think.
Here's how it goes
A lot of crap has been said about the latest zillionaire takeover of a Premier League™ club, and it’s taken me a while to figure out what I think as I’ve been listening to the mostly loaded and vested interest ridden bile that ‘fans’ and ‘journos’ have been going on about for the past few days.
The way I see it, there are tons of precedents for injecting money into football clubs, and well pre Chelsea. Madrid had their training ground controversially re-zoned out of greenbelt type status into industrial land and then flogged it to skyscraper developers via the government for €480m, 10 years ago, and proceeded to sponk the money on players – two of which, bought 7 and 8 years ago respectively remain the #1 and #2 world record transfer fees. Zidane’s record at €60m in 2001 was about to get beaten in the summer. Who was buying? According to UEFA and Platini, it must be one of these sick Premier League ™ sides who have all this dirty foreign money – but of course no, it was Madrid again, trying to buy someone from our league. Blatter, Platini and Jesus were disgusted that the poor greasy spotty slave couldn’t be bought for any amount of money. Our fault again then.
In fact, in the last 25 years (but of course not for 7) the world record transfer fee has been beaten. Let’s have a look at which clubs managed it:
3 - AC Milan
2 - Inter Milan
2 - Juventus
2 - Real Madrid
1 - Lazio
1 - Napoli
1 - Newcastle United
1 - Real Betis
Milan with three. They must have made their money honestly through their great success. Or maybe that dirty greasy Mafioso that runs their backassward corrupt country was propping them up all along, a bit like Roman? Of the 13 records there, 9 were by Italian sides, 3 Spanish and then Shearer going to the barcodes. Juventus say that they’re a good honest club, who just happen to have had their time in the sun paid for by Fiat since 1923. I don’t get how that is any more honourable either. Was UEFA bothered about things getting out of control when Italy ran it, when Madrid broke the record two seasons running at such a high cost that it still hasn’t been beaten? Oddly not.
In fact, I hate defending either the Mancs or Chelsea, but let’s have it right. They have both bought multiple stars for around 30m, but as they haven’t actually raised the bar the way Milan, Juve and Madrid have since they started, it’s clear that they’re working within a context, a framework and a set of parameters created in Europe. UEFA are only ****** because the English clubs are beating them at their own game – and haven’t even moved the goalposts...yet.
Ah, but Citeh have no history – say the poor *******s from every other ‘big’ club scared of losing a CL place or losing their best players. You know, as if Citeh just started and didn’t have 30,000 watching them in the 3rd division a few years ago and made it back into the top flight on merit (sorry Gillingham). As if they hadn’t won multiple European trophies when Roman was still in nappies. I’d rather it was them than anyone else, having to put up with the Mancs for that long. .. Oh but Madrid are 9 times European Champions, they have all that history – so them being gifted near half a billion euros is different. Balls. Madrid won 5 of them on the spin in the 50s when it was an invitational only, when it made G14 look like an evangelical church, inviting all comers.
But what about them all being dirty foreigners, all these yanks and sheiks are ruining our game and killing our identity, so I’m told. If you hadn't noticed, we're an island with a long history of immigration, global commerce, crusading, invading and empire building. It's how we do stuff, even St George was a Turk. I know that some more inclusive backward European countries that still have peasants working in the fields mightn't be able to get their head round this. They argue that this investment isn’t fair because of the wages we pay, all of a sudden we eclipse the contracts that they dish out in Spain so it isn’t fair. Let’s not get into fair in the context of Daily Mail readers screaming for our lovely nurses and boys dying in Iraq. But compared to other footballers - More people around the world are watching the Premier League™ than any others, they’re playing at a higher level to a far greater global audience. Course it’s ****** fair.
I’m a Liverpool season ticket holder and I can see right away how this shakes us up. No longer guaranteed a 4th spot in a few seasons time – surely that makes us less valuable. We were a shoe in, now we won’t be. Do I care? Do I ********. Bring it on. Like anyone has a divine right to win games. Like CL money bothers me when I’m screaming at my 11 ********* to beat your 11 ********* on a Saturday afternoon. (or Sunday lunchtime, but whatevers)
As for City’s decision to buy Robinho – not sure on that one. I mean, what you really need, when you're at a club where everything has been in flux and no one knows what's really happening and nowhere to turn - what that dressing room really needs for morale, is one crying whinging mercenary ******* in the corner on ten times more wages than everyone else telling the Daily Mirror how he hates the rain and can't get on with Mark Hughes. I’m sure there’ll be another few along soon to cheer him up.
In February 1978, Clough broke the million barrier and doubled the UK transfer record to sign Trevor Francis, who ended up scoring the winning goal in the European Cup Final three months later. Did they buy that title? I’m sure it must have been asked.
The end of football as we know it? Not a chance. It’s just City’s turn. I like going away to City, I love the fans, their songs and having a pint in the Shambles. If they can swap Kaka for cack on the pitch then I’m made up for them. Out of all of us, they deserve a laugh
hes brilliant !!!
A really brilliant balanced commentary and if FIFA, UEFA FA and all the media read it and digested it then maybe just maybe that would stop the hysteria that now surrounds us
Joined: Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:28 am
Posts: 65 I hope this wasnt posted on this forum if it was apologies
This is a post made on LFC.TV.
It is a Liverpool fan posting on a Man City Forum.
Excellent read and really makes you think.
Here's how it goes
A lot of crap has been said about the latest zillionaire takeover of a Premier League™ club, and it’s taken me a while to figure out what I think as I’ve been listening to the mostly loaded and vested interest ridden bile that ‘fans’ and ‘journos’ have been going on about for the past few days.
The way I see it, there are tons of precedents for injecting money into football clubs, and well pre Chelsea. Madrid had their training ground controversially re-zoned out of greenbelt type status into industrial land and then flogged it to skyscraper developers via the government for €480m, 10 years ago, and proceeded to sponk the money on players – two of which, bought 7 and 8 years ago respectively remain the #1 and #2 world record transfer fees. Zidane’s record at €60m in 2001 was about to get beaten in the summer. Who was buying? According to UEFA and Platini, it must be one of these sick Premier League ™ sides who have all this dirty foreign money – but of course no, it was Madrid again, trying to buy someone from our league. Blatter, Platini and Jesus were disgusted that the poor greasy spotty slave couldn’t be bought for any amount of money. Our fault again then.
In fact, in the last 25 years (but of course not for 7) the world record transfer fee has been beaten. Let’s have a look at which clubs managed it:
3 - AC Milan
2 - Inter Milan
2 - Juventus
2 - Real Madrid
1 - Lazio
1 - Napoli
1 - Newcastle United
1 - Real Betis
Milan with three. They must have made their money honestly through their great success. Or maybe that dirty greasy Mafioso that runs their backassward corrupt country was propping them up all along, a bit like Roman? Of the 13 records there, 9 were by Italian sides, 3 Spanish and then Shearer going to the barcodes. Juventus say that they’re a good honest club, who just happen to have had their time in the sun paid for by Fiat since 1923. I don’t get how that is any more honourable either. Was UEFA bothered about things getting out of control when Italy ran it, when Madrid broke the record two seasons running at such a high cost that it still hasn’t been beaten? Oddly not.
In fact, I hate defending either the Mancs or Chelsea, but let’s have it right. They have both bought multiple stars for around 30m, but as they haven’t actually raised the bar the way Milan, Juve and Madrid have since they started, it’s clear that they’re working within a context, a framework and a set of parameters created in Europe. UEFA are only ****** because the English clubs are beating them at their own game – and haven’t even moved the goalposts...yet.
Ah, but Citeh have no history – say the poor *******s from every other ‘big’ club scared of losing a CL place or losing their best players. You know, as if Citeh just started and didn’t have 30,000 watching them in the 3rd division a few years ago and made it back into the top flight on merit (sorry Gillingham). As if they hadn’t won multiple European trophies when Roman was still in nappies. I’d rather it was them than anyone else, having to put up with the Mancs for that long. .. Oh but Madrid are 9 times European Champions, they have all that history – so them being gifted near half a billion euros is different. Balls. Madrid won 5 of them on the spin in the 50s when it was an invitational only, when it made G14 look like an evangelical church, inviting all comers.
But what about them all being dirty foreigners, all these yanks and sheiks are ruining our game and killing our identity, so I’m told. If you hadn't noticed, we're an island with a long history of immigration, global commerce, crusading, invading and empire building. It's how we do stuff, even St George was a Turk. I know that some more inclusive backward European countries that still have peasants working in the fields mightn't be able to get their head round this. They argue that this investment isn’t fair because of the wages we pay, all of a sudden we eclipse the contracts that they dish out in Spain so it isn’t fair. Let’s not get into fair in the context of Daily Mail readers screaming for our lovely nurses and boys dying in Iraq. But compared to other footballers - More people around the world are watching the Premier League™ than any others, they’re playing at a higher level to a far greater global audience. Course it’s ****** fair.
I’m a Liverpool season ticket holder and I can see right away how this shakes us up. No longer guaranteed a 4th spot in a few seasons time – surely that makes us less valuable. We were a shoe in, now we won’t be. Do I care? Do I ********. Bring it on. Like anyone has a divine right to win games. Like CL money bothers me when I’m screaming at my 11 ********* to beat your 11 ********* on a Saturday afternoon. (or Sunday lunchtime, but whatevers)
As for City’s decision to buy Robinho – not sure on that one. I mean, what you really need, when you're at a club where everything has been in flux and no one knows what's really happening and nowhere to turn - what that dressing room really needs for morale, is one crying whinging mercenary ******* in the corner on ten times more wages than everyone else telling the Daily Mirror how he hates the rain and can't get on with Mark Hughes. I’m sure there’ll be another few along soon to cheer him up.
In February 1978, Clough broke the million barrier and doubled the UK transfer record to sign Trevor Francis, who ended up scoring the winning goal in the European Cup Final three months later. Did they buy that title? I’m sure it must have been asked.
The end of football as we know it? Not a chance. It’s just City’s turn. I like going away to City, I love the fans, their songs and having a pint in the Shambles. If they can swap Kaka for cack on the pitch then I’m made up for them. Out of all of us, they deserve a laugh
hes brilliant !!!
A really brilliant balanced commentary and if FIFA, UEFA FA and all the media read it and digested it then maybe just maybe that would stop the hysteria that now surrounds us
Nice post and some fair points made.
But, I will remind you of this when the Premier League is a franchise with a close shop policy or we have a European super league owned by the new breed of owner, of which no doubt Liverpool would be involved.
If it does not happen . . . you can remind me of this post.
Seems fair.
But, I will remind you of this when the Premier League is a franchise with a close shop policy or we have a European super league owned by the new breed of owner, of which no doubt Liverpool would be involved.
If it does not happen . . . you can remind me of this post.
Seems fair.
A SCOUSER WITH SENSE
Joined: Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:28 am
Posts: 65 I hope this wasnt posted on this forum if it was apologies
This is a post made on LFC.TV.
It is a Liverpool fan posting on a Man City Forum.
Excellent read and really makes you think.
Here's how it goes
A lot of crap has been said about the latest zillionaire takeover of a Premier League™ club, and it’s taken me a while to figure out what I think as I’ve been listening to the mostly loaded and vested interest ridden bile that ‘fans’ and ‘journos’ have been going on about for the past few days.
The way I see it, there are tons of precedents for injecting money into football clubs, and well pre Chelsea. Madrid had their training ground controversially re-zoned out of greenbelt type status into industrial land and then flogged it to skyscraper developers via the government for €480m, 10 years ago, and proceeded to sponk the money on players – two of which, bought 7 and 8 years ago respectively remain the #1 and #2 world record transfer fees. Zidane’s record at €60m in 2001 was about to get beaten in the summer. Who was buying? According to UEFA and Platini, it must be one of these sick Premier League ™ sides who have all this dirty foreign money – but of course no, it was Madrid again, trying to buy someone from our league. Blatter, Platini and Jesus were disgusted that the poor greasy spotty slave couldn’t be bought for any amount of money. Our fault again then.
In fact, in the last 25 years (but of course not for 7) the world record transfer fee has been beaten. Let’s have a look at which clubs managed it:
3 - AC Milan
2 - Inter Milan
2 - Juventus
2 - Real Madrid
1 - Lazio
1 - Napoli
1 - Newcastle United
1 - Real Betis
Milan with three. They must have made their money honestly through their great success. Or maybe that dirty greasy Mafioso that runs their backassward corrupt country was propping them up all along, a bit like Roman? Of the 13 records there, 9 were by Italian sides, 3 Spanish and then Shearer going to the barcodes. Juventus say that they’re a good honest club, who just happen to have had their time in the sun paid for by Fiat since 1923. I don’t get how that is any more honourable either. Was UEFA bothered about things getting out of control when Italy ran it, when Madrid broke the record two seasons running at such a high cost that it still hasn’t been beaten? Oddly not.
In fact, I hate defending either the Mancs or Chelsea, but let’s have it right. They have both bought multiple stars for around 30m, but as they haven’t actually raised the bar the way Milan, Juve and Madrid have since they started, it’s clear that they’re working within a context, a framework and a set of parameters created in Europe. UEFA are only ****** because the English clubs are beating them at their own game – and haven’t even moved the goalposts...yet.
Ah, but Citeh have no history – say the poor *******s from every other ‘big’ club scared of losing a CL place or losing their best players. You know, as if Citeh just started and didn’t have 30,000 watching them in the 3rd division a few years ago and made it back into the top flight on merit (sorry Gillingham). As if they hadn’t won multiple European trophies when Roman was still in nappies. I’d rather it was them than anyone else, having to put up with the Mancs for that long. .. Oh but Madrid are 9 times European Champions, they have all that history – so them being gifted near half a billion euros is different. Balls. Madrid won 5 of them on the spin in the 50s when it was an invitational only, when it made G14 look like an evangelical church, inviting all comers.
But what about them all being dirty foreigners, all these yanks and sheiks are ruining our game and killing our identity, so I’m told. If you hadn't noticed, we're an island with a long history of immigration, global commerce, crusading, invading and empire building. It's how we do stuff, even St George was a Turk. I know that some more inclusive backward European countries that still have peasants working in the fields mightn't be able to get their head round this. They argue that this investment isn’t fair because of the wages we pay, all of a sudden we eclipse the contracts that they dish out in Spain so it isn’t fair. Let’s not get into fair in the context of Daily Mail readers screaming for our lovely nurses and boys dying in Iraq. But compared to other footballers - More people around the world are watching the Premier League™ than any others, they’re playing at a higher level to a far greater global audience. Course it’s ****** fair.
I’m a Liverpool season ticket holder and I can see right away how this shakes us up. No longer guaranteed a 4th spot in a few seasons time – surely that makes us less valuable. We were a shoe in, now we won’t be. Do I care? Do I ********. Bring it on. Like anyone has a divine right to win games. Like CL money bothers me when I’m screaming at my 11 ********* to beat your 11 ********* on a Saturday afternoon. (or Sunday lunchtime, but whatevers)
As for City’s decision to buy Robinho – not sure on that one. I mean, what you really need, when you're at a club where everything has been in flux and no one knows what's really happening and nowhere to turn - what that dressing room really needs for morale, is one crying whinging mercenary ******* in the corner on ten times more wages than everyone else telling the Daily Mirror how he hates the rain and can't get on with Mark Hughes. I’m sure there’ll be another few along soon to cheer him up.
In February 1978, Clough broke the million barrier and doubled the UK transfer record to sign Trevor Francis, who ended up scoring the winning goal in the European Cup Final three months later. Did they buy that title? I’m sure it must have been asked.
The end of football as we know it? Not a chance. It’s just City’s turn. I like going away to City, I love the fans, their songs and having a pint in the Shambles. If they can swap Kaka for cack on the pitch then I’m made up for them. Out of all of us, they deserve a laugh
hes brilliant !!!
A really brilliant balanced commentary and if FIFA, UEFA FA and all the media read it and digested it then maybe just maybe that would stop the hysteria that now surrounds us
