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I'd been looking forward to this event for ages. Arrived at the brewery around 9.30pm only to be told that EVERY person must have ID to get in despite how old they look which was fine for most of us except for 2 members of our party who had to go home in a taxi to get theirs! It took us 30 minutes to get them a taxi and we arranged to meet them in there. When they'd gone home in a taxi the bouncers just let us in WITHOUT EVEN ASKING FOR I.D!:mad: The flyer doesn't say anywhere that ID is required!!

Then when we entered the forecourt, there was food stands, toilets, etc. and No fairground rides! Not a problem except that it is advertised on the flyer that there would be! I also didn't notice any paramedics or St. Johns ambulance there either which would have been a good idea as with large events like these, obviously, some people are going to overdo it:fekked:

We go into the Old Skool room to catch the last half of Welly's set and it was fantastic!! The fella didn't hold back at all and it was tune after tune! The only problem was that the sound we could hear was coming from the DJ's booth monitors facing the back wall!! The speakers at the front of the stage facing the crowd were SWITCHED OFF!!:mad: I've been in 300 capacity nightclubs and heard louder music than that it was pathetic!!

After Welly, it was due to be a Casino live PA but some Dj or other was on playing cheesy '95 rehashes of older tunes. Typical Pianoman type stuff but a hell of a lot worse! I expect it was a DJ from Casino but his tune selection was utter pants. I went into the hardcore room after hearing 15 mins of that.

Another thing is the beer prices. £4 a bottle and £2.50 per shot! 2 cash machines on site and only 1 worked! I spent over £80 on beer alone paying for myself and my girlfriend.

The hardcore room was much larger and was kitted out with big screens, lasers etc. Only once again, the sound was extremely low and all we was hearing was the damp, muffled sound that was rebounded off the back wall into the crowd. Once again, the front stage speakers facing the crowd was switched off!:mad: You could barely make out the vocals in any track and if you stood at the back, you could only hear a muffled melody echoing around the room. It was abismal!!:|

Every bar stopped serving drinks at 2am!! Which was absolute sh!te considering it was on till 6am. But hey, the law's the law and if they couldn't get a later license then fair enough.

We caught both of Stu Allan's sets there to which he recieved a massive ovation for his prescence. Vibe's and Livelee's set was good but I couldn't make out a word Livelee was saying let alone the vocal tracks. After that, we went into the empty Vodka bar for a sit down and a natter until the most anticpated sets were due to be on. Hixxy's at 4am and Sy's at 5am.

It got to 3.50am and we made our way back into the hardcore arena only to see the house lights come on. Vibe's and Livelee were finishing off their second set. "Thanks for coming guys" (I think he said) and that was that!!

WHERE WAS HIXXY?? WHERE WAS SY & STORM??? We rushed into the old skool room only to find that was being cleared out too. There was no police rushing in there, I only saw 2 coppers the whole night and they were stood behind the barriers outside all night just keeping an eye on things.

I asked one of the guy's handing out flyers and then a friend who has worked with the promoters (Sam & Kirsty from Sankey's) before. They BOTH said that they couldn't get a 6am license and the council had told them 4am and not 1 minute over! When I asked about the poor sound, they replied that environmental health had put a strict sound limit on the event BEFORE it had begun because they were near residential area's just down the road.

It seems to me that despite the poor sound they knew they would have and the 4am license. The MISSING crew didn't bother telling the fans that they would MISS the best part of the show being Hixxy & Sy which most people were there to see. The hardcore ravers outnumbered the old skoolers 2:1. I'm sure they've just winged it and came up with the idea of saying that they were closed down by the police which is utter bollocks!! THERE WAS NONE THERE. They didn't even enter the grounds but waited outside like I said, to make sure all was OK and to be on standby if needed which you'd expect at such a large event.

Walking out of the ground, there was 5 officers, 1 van (there from the start) and 1 car. This event was not closed down I can assure you of that! I've been to many nightclubs that have been closed down over the years by the police and they turn out in full effect when that happens!

And do you know what, I don't blame any of the secondary promoters involved in this event. Compulsion, Goodtimes, etc. I know that the MISSING team are certainly not missing any spare change at the moment, whilst the clubber's that attended from all over the North West ARE!! They were robbed at this event paying anything from £12.50 to £20 for a ticket. And for what? To barely hear the music, be robbed at the bar and told to fuck off when 4am arrived without hearing 2 of the biggest DJ's the clubbing scene has to offer.

Do us all a favour MISSING, and make sure your aspirations for putting on large scale events DO go MISSING! I've never felt more ripped off and cheated by promoter's in all my life!:mad: :mad:

If you do wish to retain ANY credibility, I'd offer a partial refund to every member who has retained their ticket stubs or who you have on your transaction files. 3'000 people you disappointed that night. You should be ashamed of yourselves!

If any of the other promoter's had any sense they would NEVER work with them again!

What I say on here about the licensing thing may not be fact, but I tell you this, I will be in touch with Manchester City Council tomorrow morning and I'll find out wether they knew before the event took place if they knew about all of this.

There is no way the event event was shut down on the night. How convenient that they turned the house lights up at 3.50am in every room and there wasn't a sound to be heard after 4am and no police were inside the Boddingtons Brewery grounds with only 5 coppers stood outside. So, don't even come on here and lie to us MISSING and prove to us that you guys are missing brain cells as well as competence.
 

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You have got your facts completely wrong.

Hixxy and stom played the last hour, maybe you were too busy chatting in the vodka bar to notice?

Here is the official statement regarding the other issues on the night. Please note that everything which MISSING had control over was delivered as promised. The things which let the ight down were entirely under the control of venue management, not MISSING and we were very disappointed that they did not deliver on their promises having paid a massive sum to hire the venue..

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Firstly, we would like to thank all the ravers for coming and making this a truly amazing event!

We managed to pull off:

The biggest hardcore event of 2006
The only true warehouse rave since the closure of the sanctuary
The first true warehouse rave in the North since Bowlers closed in 2001

And we properly rocked the place!

Unfortunately there were a number of serious problems during the night which were entirely out of our control but which may have affected some people's enjoyment and we would like to apologise of behalf of the venue management for these problems. This venue is very new and has never been used for a hardcore event before so a few teething problems were to be expected. What we didn't expect was that the authorities would decend on us from all directions, testing and inspecting everything.

* Sound issues: The sound systems had to be turned down because environmental health were on the premises monitoring noise levels throughout the night due to complaints received from local residents during events there last weekend. They insisted on the soundsystems being turned right down towards the end of the night.

* Whistles: Enviromental health also insisted that we stop selling whistles because local residents would hear people blowing whistles in the outdoor areas!!

* Fairground ride: The fairground ride was to be organised by the venue mangement, who assured us on the day before the event that it was fully booked and confirmed, however on the day of the event we were told that the safety inspector who needed to approve the siting of the ride hadn't turned up, so the ride had to be cancelled.

* Finish time: We were informed at around 1am by venue management that the authorities had asked for the event to be shut down at 2am on health and safety grounds. After some frantic negotiation we were able to get this increased to 4am but no further. Hixxy drove like mad to make the earlier set time and we hoped to get sy (who was due to play last) on with him for a back to back, but he wasn't able to get to the venue in time. DJs who arrived but were not able to play due to the night being shortened were still fully paid - we didn't have time to cancel people. In particular we are very sorry to those people who were hoping to see sy.

* Sharkey: Sharkey sends his apologies - he had to cancel at the last moment due to unforeseen circumstances and was replaced at very short notice by Marc Smith, who in fact never played after driving four hours to get here due to the night being shortened.

We hope these problems didn't bother you too much and you enjoyed the amazing venue, pyrotechnics, lasers, truly excellent performances from all the acts and last but not least, the fantastic crowd!

Now I must sleep! I've had one of the most stressful nights of my life dealing with all these issues but it was worth it to see so many people having an amazing night. Thankyou!
 

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In addition you complain about bar prices. bar takings all go to venue management not to missing.

The venue does have a full 6am licence however the authorities insisted they shut at 4. The venue management agreed to this and told us we would have no choice but to stop at 4am. The night was not shut down by the police but it would have been if the venue management had not agreed to close at 4.

MISSING delivered 100% on everything we had promised which we had control over. The things which let the night down were under the control of venue management, not MISSING. Please address your complaints to:

[email protected]
Tel: 0161 835 3518
 

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Quite agree Grimmy, this event was a huge let down!!!

Cavernous warehouses???? Laser shows???? Fairground rides??? Pyrotechnics???... I think I was at the wrong event!!!

On a positive note I cant fault the DJ's it was just a shame that you could barely hear the tracks they were playing.

I felt sorry for Liquid, as soon as their set started the volume was turned down even more against the chants of "turn it up" from the crowd. By 2:30am half the dance floor had emptied. Surprising as the event was advertised to finish at 6:00am!

Having paid £17 for a ticket I feel that some compensation is warranted, even one of the security guys as we left said that "it was f*cking sh*t organisation".

I'll definitely think twice before going to an event organised by these people in the future.
 

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Cavernous warehouses???? Laser shows???? Pyrotechnics???...

The other things you mention as a let down were orgnised by the venue management not missing. Not sure how you can complain about any of the above... there were three very high power lasers, five sets of pyrotechnics through the night and very cavernous warehouses. Check out the photos in the gallery at ukscene if you have any doubts.

I really think some of the people complaining were not actually at the event from the comments. You'll note storm & hixxy are also pictured on stage, despite grimmys claim they didn't play! Sounds like you just had a bad trip and didn't have a clue what was going on. The sound levels were low and the night finished early. These factors were totally out of the control of MISSING. We delivered 100% of everything which was under our control - lights laser, pyro, and lineup.
 

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The other things you mention as a let down were orgnised by the venue management not missing. Not sure how you can complain about any of the above... there were three very high power lasers, five sets of pyrotechnics through the night and very cavernous warehouses. Check out the photos in the gallery at ukscene if you have any doubts.

I really think some of the people complaining were not actually at the event from the comments. You'll note storm & hixxy are also pictured on stage, despite grimmys claim they didn't play! Sounds like you just had a bad trip and didn't have a clue what was going on. The sound levels were low and the night finished early. These factors were totally out of the control of MISSING. We delivered 100% of everything which was under our control - lights laser, pyro, and lineup.


LOL can i just say Griimy dont take drugs.
I was noty at the event as i was in work but would love to have gone, but your wrong in some of your facts, sankeys staged a proper warehousde rave in a proper warehouse a few years ago
There is no local residents that near to boddingtons brewery, its on bury new road between Strangeways prisonand the Manchester Evening News arena, so somebodies tellin you porkies fella, unless it was all the prisoners complaining as they might not be able to sleep and therefore b late to work the next morning
 

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LOL can i just say Griimy dont take drugs.
I was noty at the event as i was in work but would love to have gone, but your wrong in some of your facts, sankeys staged a proper warehousde rave in a proper warehouse a few years ago
There is no local residents that near to boddingtons brewery, its on bury new road between Strangeways brewery and the Manchester Evening News arena, so somebodies tellin you porkies fella

Actually there is a huge new residential block right next to the MEN arena about 100m from the warehouse which was built last year.

The sankeys warehouse event did not play any rave music so I wouldn't call it a rave but thats a matter of opinion.
 

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Actually there is a huge new residential block right next to the MEN arena about 100m from the warehouse which was built last year.

The sankeys warehouse event did not play any rave music so I wouldn't call it a rave but thats a matter of opinion.

its not a residential area though is it?
It was a warehouse party at sankeys and they all played acid house, like they did in the old days, not compulsion anthems
 

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its not a residential area though is it?

Doesn't matter whether the area is residential, there are hundreds of residents in that one block and unfortunately they complained the week before. We lost out because the sound levels were excessively high the week before, we were made to have them excessively low for our night.
 

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Doesn't matter whether the area is residential, there are hundreds of residents in that one block and unfortunately they complained the week before. We lost out because the sound levels were excessively high the week before, we were made to have them excessively low for our night.

Sorry to be blunt mate but thats a crock of shit as the sound was shambolic for the 1st event with public enemy.
Now i'm not dissing your night as the few peeps I know who went to it said it was alright but you makin excuses and stating facts that are not right, " people have criticised it and you have tried to blame all the problems on other things. Now everyone knows the problems were not your fault personaly and I would bet you worked bloody hard to pull it off but you dont need to make daft excuses
 
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hate to stick my two pence worth in as i never attended either due to bloody goodyear n there tyres n fact one blew out on me on way there but fact is a prison IS a residential property (they dont get to walk out the gates at 5pm lololol) and as everyone who has attended a club event or promoted one will know, venue bosses can be twats n also they get extremely greedy n knowing they dont have to carry the can for fook ups tend to do wotever they please wether or not they have promised u anything (same happened at dna for id summer shindig closing it early on us) see as club laws used to b till 2am ppl tended to drink in accordance n by 1.30ish most ppl r ready for home so stop spending over the bar n a venue owner/manager will see this as not good business if he is having to pay staff still but not taking anything so i would say 9/10 will close the place

as i say this is just my view i wernt there and i just felt like trying my soap box out for size :$ :$ :$ :$
i just think blame should b shared around a bit not just at toes of one part of the team

ok done now, thanx for reading n if ur gonna put me in my place for writing this plz do it nicely :)
 

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hate to stick my two pence worth in as i never attended either due to bloody goodyear n there tyres n fact one blew out on me on way there but fact is a prison IS a residential property (they dont get to walk out the gates at 5pm lololol) and as everyone who has attended a club event or promoted one will know, venue bosses can be twats n also they get extremely greedy n knowing they dont have to carry the can for fook ups tend to do wotever they please wether or not they have promised u anything (same happened at dna for id summer shindig closing it early on us) see as club laws used to b till 2am ppl tended to drink in accordance n by 1.30ish most ppl r ready for home so stop spending over the bar n a venue owner/manager will see this as not good business if he is having to pay staff still but not taking anything so i would say 9/10 will close the place

as i say this is just my view i wernt there and i just felt like trying my soap box out for size :$ :$ :$ :$
i just think blame should b shared around a bit not just at toes of one part of the team

ok done now, thanx for reading n if ur gonna put me in my place for writing this plz do it nicely :)

nah don't be daft, those are wise words.
Like I said the peeps I have spoken to who went to the night enjoyed themselves and said it was a good night apart from the sound
 

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... Now i'm not dissing your night as the few peeps I know who went to it said it was alright...

You hit the nail on the head there easty, something billed as the warehouse / rave event of the year described as "alright" says it all. If the sound issue was known about a week earlier why weren't we informed, at least we would be going there with our eyes open...

No one is doubting your hardwork or dedication missing, its just that the event didn't deliver what it said on the tin...
 

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I was gonna do a review yesterday but waited to see if it was just me who had a sh*te night! Agree with all the bad reviews above, cannot believe such a big event could have such a crap sound system! Felt like going home within 10 mins of getting there :mad: Whats the point of going to a dance event when you can't even hear the tunes :confused: I felt sooo sorry for Liquid the poor lads had thier set totally killed by the sound guys, all they ciould do was struggle through whilst shaking thier heads & shrugging thier shoulders to the angry crowd. Cost me a fortune did this too although i got a £12.50 ticket! Being from Yorkshire i booked a Travelodge for the weekend for me & our lass (£130) Spent a fortune at the bar (£120) and to top it off £24 to park me fckin car :mad:

Only good point of the night was having a good old chin wag to quite a few old skool peeps through out the night (Well the you could even TALK over the tunes & loads of peeps were even using thier phones in the old skool warehouse)
 

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Sorry to be blunt mate but thats a crock of shit as the sound was shambolic for the 1st event with public enemy.
Now i'm not dissing your night as the few peeps I know who went to it said it was alright but you makin excuses and stating facts that are not right, " people have criticised it and you have tried to blame all the problems on other things. Now everyone knows the problems were not your fault personaly and I would bet you worked bloody hard to pull it off but you dont need to make daft excuses

Yes the sound was poor with public enemy but the problems were fixed the following weekend and sound was excellent for 2 many DJs. unfortunately that resulted in complaints from residents so the authorities decided to crack down on our event, which we didn't know was going to happen. The sound system is incredibly good as you would know if you went to 2 many djs, just such a shame it had to be turned down. we were totally gutted but there was nothing we could do.
 

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You'll note storm & hixxy are also pictured on stage, despite grimmys claim they didn't play! Sounds like you just had a bad trip and didn't have a clue what was going on. The sound levels were low and the night finished early. These factors were totally out of the control of MISSING. We delivered 100% of everything which was under our control - lights laser, pyro, and lineup.

You cheeky tw@t for your "bad trip" comment! Most people on here that know me will tell you I'm never off my face.

If you only had control of the lights, laser, pyro and lineup then you're MISSING the most important bits of a warehouse rave. The sound system for a start. How can the lineup be heard never mind appreciated if we can't hear them. Which leads me nicely onto my next point. I didn't know Hixxy was even on stage because of the extremely poor sound. Obviously I'd have heard the MC announce him and maybe had heard his Braveheart tune which he always plays. The Vodka bar was in the back of the hardcore room and I wasn't in there for more than 15 minutes! So, I guesss I did hear Hixxy play, well I say hear, I mean see people shouting "turn it up" when he played.

You was also MISSING the happy ravers celebrating what should have been a celebration of one of the best warehouse events in the NorthWest. Once again, you failed there.

Another thing that was MISSING was the organisational skills. If things were out of your control then how on earth can you organise it to work and appear as YOU advertised it! I've been fortunate enough to have played at large scale events alongside half of the DJ's appearing there and I must say, this has been the worst event as a spectator and/or DJ I've been to. I know the promoter's job is to fulfill his mission statement and put on a good show which you certainly did not. Sounds to me like you was bullied by the council and the venue's owner. Must be down to your lack of experience and competence.

DJ sets were also MISSING on the night. The biggest name on the flyer didn't even play! Out of your control tho wasn't it? Its OK, take our money for it anyway, we don't mind.

MISSING just about sums up your skills as a promoter of large scale events to me. You certainly picked the right name for yourself.
 

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Well, me, antz and Lozzie went to this night. Met up with Ben and Gaz there as Ben was playing in the Box at about 9pm.

To be honest we all had a really good night. But i must admit the sound was crap at times. Seemed to constantly go up and down and being adjusted all through the night.
Me and Lozz we even dancing right next to the speaker and could still hear everyone talkin! :|
We heard local residents had complained too, and that was why the music was turned down and the venue shut early. :confused:

the thing is, ive been to events before, such as global gatherings, where they monitor the sound because of local residents, yet it is never as low as it was on friday..?

Oh well i had a good night anyway :cool:
 

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grimmy it was me that was on after welly,i think you must have had a pill too many,i played push button tech-everybody all over the world,hi liner-loving you,the project-out of control,masi-apache,respect-young hearts run free,khaled-cheeba,the farmer-jump into this party,medium high-the pleasure in that order,i only had half hour due to casino not turning up,after me was daz willot.
if you class the tunes i dropped as cheese id love to have a root through your collection m8e,but each to there own,if you didnt like it fair play,i had the time of my life up there.and the crowd and feedback ive had was all very good.
the night had problems that were out of the promoters hands,what can anybody do when the law says NO.
i had a great night and everyone i met did:thumbsup:
i was at the venue from around 4pm helping set up,a hell of alot of work went into it and massive respect to all involved
 

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The four biggest names on the flyer were rozalla, liquid, kutski and hixxy all of whom played.

That's in your opinion mate. Sy & Hixxy are without doubt the biggest crowdpullers for all hardcore events which is why they play at every major hardcore event around the globe. I went there and paid to see Sy and I didn't get the chance.

Imagine Frank Warren promising a big fight then people turn up and they don't see what they'd paid for. There'd be uproar! You've no excuse.