ruffers said:
This really fuckin' winds me up to be honest. The so-called fuel protest movement is a few tens of people who just want to get some attention for themselves and have nothing positive to say about anything. Most of them get red diesel anyway
My understanding is that the government is taking less now than when they stopped the protests last time, so why start again? Also, and this is the question they won't answer, what would they like to be taxed instead?
So for them to have their childish tantrum thousands of people's lives are disrupted. Ignorant twunts.
Errrm, I will have to disagree there, lol. (no suprise - sirius in argument shocker lol).
The entire tax system in this country is absolutley ridiculous, and its about time they just wiped the board clean and got back to basics. Theres a tax for everything, and road tax etc and petrol tax which was initially to aid the building and upkeep of roads on this island doesnt even touch what its purpose is for, and its so complicated, stealth taxes at every turn, and dont you even get taxed on your tax? I think you do.
The road quality in this country now is a f'cking disgrace.
Anyway, The country is fucked up, because through lapses in common sense in the thatcher era especially, a lapse which didnt get any rectification through subsequent government, means that the country is now even more dependant on cars and lorries at its infrastructure. The railways were fobbed off, the right mechanisms were not put in place for an efficient goods transportation mechanism and now the roads are chock of people making a living driving scones from Aberdeen to London, and London wagons carting bog rolls from essex to inverness and everywhere inbetween. Its higglety piggelty madness. From people who used to find work in factories and offices in thier own towns, the industries have all fucked off and service jobs (giving us a false economy) have replaced them and its now rare that anyone now works where they actually live. Times about 50 million motorists neededing to get to and fro criss crossing each other, and hikes in the cost to do that and people are bound to complain, especially when driving is your job and livelyhood.
Throw into the mix foriegn transporters, and here is where the problems start for haulage companies and drivers. When, for example, Polish drivers are filling thier whole HGV tanks with diesel for under half what we pay, drive all the way over from another country, do the jobs here (undercutting us) and refuel back home en route to picking up the next shipments, whilst also being on much cheaper wages, the haulage people here cannot compete in what is allegedly supposed to be an EVEN playing field in the EU. When we joined (and what the fucking
bane of my life thats turned out to be in other ways
) this exact thing (amongst others) wasnt supposed to happen.
Now, I dont necessarily side with the hauliers but I see the problems caused when a country thats so fucked in regards to organisation of simple goods transport infrastructure and people movement, and can appreciate that stuff like this is tough for them in those industries dependant on transport and therefore jobs could be lost in whats already a cut throat market. Then the costs of all produce go up on the highstreet to cover the unbelievably inefficient nature of the entire transport industry.
I dont have sympathy though because I think its all done wrong anyway, and there shouldnt be all this transportation in HGV's etc. Poeple need to pay the money somehow for funding society, but dont get me started on where one shitload of money could be saved every year
, cos Im sure you will know the answer!!!. The absurdity of uncapped demographics ladies and gentlemen.
Over half the money is on Tax to the government, foriegn countries producing it seem to be banging up prices left right and center (admittedly on a very low scale I think), but as it goes down the line people are using every excuse to just hike it a little more and in the meantime people like BP and Shell etc make profits of over £8.7
BILLION in ONE YEAR. Okay, they are in it for the money, but £8.7bn per year profits and rising?
, at the exploit of poorer countries and at the pisstake of richer ones.
Gordon Brown is loosing the plot. The stance shouldnt be on demanding more fuel production gloabally etc, it should be the exact opposite and sorting out LESS depandancy on oil altogether, then they can let those backward insular religious shitholes where it happens to pour from alone to rot in thier own filth and stifled progress and we can sever ties on the dependancy on them and the nightmare it poses and leave them to thier own devices and maybe even an enlightenment. He should also put money into serious development and implimentation of alternatives that can be made to make us more self sufficient here, such as Fuel Cells and recycled waste oil, oil seeds to replenish farming industries etc. But they wont to that, because oil is big business and the world structure relies on it to stay pretty stable, its geared around it.
Anyway, probably a load of boolax all that, but hey thats the ramblings of a mad man for ya
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People are mad, people are 'sheeple' in this country. People cant bide to miss out or feel that they are being done out, so they que and cause more strife mass buying it like its the end of the frigging world and they need it incase by some miracle they alone survive, lol. Talk about suckers being sucked in to things, christ. People cause their own shortages, lol. If people would have just carried on as normal, rid out the storm, it wouldnt be such a drama. Theres not even a shortage anyway, people are paniking over a shortage that doesnt even exist. Its just prices going up, no reason to fill your tank to the brim along with as many containers you can cram in your boot
. lol.
As far as I know, there wont even be any blockades of pumps like last time!!, its all spin and speculation by the media seeking that juicy story and prompting themselves a spin off story of 'panic' buying on the rest of it. The media industry cant help but fuel its own sad perverted existance. lol. All I heard was going to happen was a few go slows on motorways and such like to cause disruption and make a stance.
Sirius.
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2005/08/toyotas_fine-n_1.php
http://www.howstuffworks.com/news-item10.htm
http://www.biodiesel.org/resources/biodiesel_basics/default.shtm
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