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Ed

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Is there software that will lift the individual tracks off a track.

So say I wanted to remove the vocal from a track? Or just the bass etc.

is this easy to do?

I've had ideas for tunes for years, especially updating a few Northern Soul tunes but always wondered how easy it was to do?

Cheers
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Hiya Ed ..... Not sure im gonna be much help here...but doesnt Reason 2.5 do this..... :confused:

im not sure but i know there are peeps who have got to grip with this programme unlike me who will be able to say for sure :thumbsup:

sounds like u have some interesting ideas hun...... :thumbsup:

Reason aint easy to follow which is why i aint really done much with it to this date....but im almost sure u can use it to do the jobs you requested :D
 
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Ed said:
Is there software that will lift the individual tracks off a track.

So say I wanted to remove the vocal from a track? Or just the bass etc.

is this easy to do?

I've had ideas for tunes for years, especially updating a few Northern Soul tunes but always wondered how easy it was to do?

Cheers
Ed
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Hi m8
The only method that will 'lift' a vocal from a track is reverse phasing. Can work but doesnt always. Rather than me explain it here is a tutorial on how its done. Good luck m8

http://www.sonicspot.com/guide/vocalremoval.html
 
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I dont think its possible to take out specific tracks , because when the musician is happy with his tracks , he'll Master them to a stereo output . From what ive read Blue Jammer is into his music production , so hes probs the best man to ask. I also no you cant do it with Reason as I have this. The other options you have is using Cool Edit pro/ Adobe audition , to get your sample and cleaning it up , you can boost vocal parts that have beats behind them , then go thru the process of reducing the bass , till your left with the vocal (though you can never truly get rid of the other track elements , just reduce there impacts)However ,Vocal removal is quite easy and effectively done with Cool edit/Adobe audition. Maybe someone knows something I dont though. Anywayz Good luck
 
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Like AB45 said it can be possible. To "lift" a vocal from a record you ideally need a flawless digital copy of the full version of the song, and of the instrumental. This is the only way it can be done. And when I say the copies need to be flawless, they seriously need to absolutely identical to one another - except for one not having the vocal on it.

It also won't work if you try to record the two tracks off vinyl, coz you'll never get them to match up for more than a couple of beats.


Think of it like this... if you bake a cake, can you then remove the egg in one piece?
 
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ilovepiano said:
Think of it like this... if you bake a cake, can you then remove the egg in one piece?
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That's what I thought! It's just I am not musical enough to input notes without having shedloads of time on my hands. I have a good ear but that's about it.

Thanks to everyone who replied, hopefully BJ will add as well. It sounds like there is quite a bit to be playing about with, just wish I had 6 months not working to experiement!
 
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excellent

excellent comparison from ilovepiano re the eggs and cake.never heard it explained like that before but brilliant comparison.
re the situation,its an absolute shitter that there is really no possible way of doing what was wanted but on the other hand its probably just as well cos you would get every pat&mick trying there luck at it.theres got to be talent in the tune making process.ah fuck lets all go out and but some ejays shit (or equivalent) and make crappy tunes which 12 year olds can dance to!!!!!!!! :mad:
 
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The simple answer is no.

The complex answer, but involving thousands and thousands of pounds of studio hardware is yes-ish.

With the right sort of gates and processing, you can strip away a lot of elements of a track to reveal the vocals, but usually only in snatches.

Best bet is to try find an acapella of it already, or if that is a no-go, get someone to re-sing it :|

:D

Originally Posted by ilovepiano
Think of it like this... if you bake a cake, can you then remove the egg in one piece?

heheh :D :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
 
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Cheers BJ.

Actually am not so interested in stripping vocals off a track as getting the individual parts, eg bass, drums, strings etc.

I assume when someone remixes they get a copy of the original master tapes. Anyone know if these are expensive to get hold of? Obviously there are copyright issues but getting hold of the actual bits would be inteesting and a really creative process.

Pianoman would probably know this, does, he still come on here?
 
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If its an Acapella you want go over to theAcapella Heaven website and talk to Loopfish and Damo and the guys, they are masters at reverse phasing and theres alot of acapellas that are out ther that these guys have lifted. They have proper tutorials on how to do it.

the way it works is by cancelling frequencies.And yes it is possible for vocals (but hard lol), not that good for instruments:)
 
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