haha john i think its the norm, i cleaned jemmas motor a few week back for its mot, she asked why i said if i was to mot this wheelie bin i would try find something wrong with the thing out of sheer disgrace just to give an idea of how messy and long it is since she cleaned it out, i found TWO :| screwed up out of date tax discs (12 month ones) in amongst the rest of the rubbish