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<blockquote data-quote="PepeLePew" data-source="post: 826585" data-attributes="member: 4895"><p>No not I'm not making a direct comparison to ravers Jim. I could have made the comparison to a n other "event" thing that has happened recently. I could have drawn a comparison from mods v rockers to brixton riots to football casuals. Or to the nicer things like Woodstock or ravers in disused warehouses, which we think were wonderful positive life changing moments of clarity for the world, to the moral majority(which we are part of now) we were just another bunch of c*nts f*cking up our lives and everything around them</p><p></p><p>The only parallel I draw is that there were lots of individual sheep that felt a buzz to be part of what was happening, because the previously perceived peace was not working for them.</p><p></p><p>Underneath there are individual gang "leaders" or promoters or muso's that will have really started things. </p><p>This time around it will be the ultra violent / arsonists / window smashers; that changed the game and drew the sheep in. Whilst there will be hundreds of people in prisons, and plenty of pain for those involved. One thing I am convinced of is that we will not have seen the last of these type of flash lootings; the idea could easily spread to other countries too. </p><p></p><p>Whilst I would definitely like to see National Service,. I'm not sure without a grand plan such as National Service, the nation can expect to get any positive results out of kicking an already demonised chav class. We simply don't have any continents we can ship them off to, continents to conquer, or even legally able to use them as cannon fodder any more. </p><p></p><p>The biggest thing I hope for is that people stop being politically apathetic and wake up to the need to solve issues like this collectively. And not look for a quick win like throwing the key away. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PepeLePew, post: 826585, member: 4895"] No not I'm not making a direct comparison to ravers Jim. I could have made the comparison to a n other "event" thing that has happened recently. I could have drawn a comparison from mods v rockers to brixton riots to football casuals. Or to the nicer things like Woodstock or ravers in disused warehouses, which we think were wonderful positive life changing moments of clarity for the world, to the moral majority(which we are part of now) we were just another bunch of c*nts f*cking up our lives and everything around them The only parallel I draw is that there were lots of individual sheep that felt a buzz to be part of what was happening, because the previously perceived peace was not working for them. Underneath there are individual gang "leaders" or promoters or muso's that will have really started things. This time around it will be the ultra violent / arsonists / window smashers; that changed the game and drew the sheep in. Whilst there will be hundreds of people in prisons, and plenty of pain for those involved. One thing I am convinced of is that we will not have seen the last of these type of flash lootings; the idea could easily spread to other countries too. Whilst I would definitely like to see National Service,. I'm not sure without a grand plan such as National Service, the nation can expect to get any positive results out of kicking an already demonised chav class. We simply don't have any continents we can ship them off to, continents to conquer, or even legally able to use them as cannon fodder any more. The biggest thing I hope for is that people stop being politically apathetic and wake up to the need to solve issues like this collectively. And not look for a quick win like throwing the key away. :) [/QUOTE]
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