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<blockquote data-quote="actual" data-source="post: 133346" data-attributes="member: 1038"><p><strong>Germany & electronic music</strong></p><p></p><p>Hi,</p><p></p><p>and thank you for all the nice hello's !</p><p></p><p>Hmm, I don't know anybody besides me who's into this music. My M8s who were raving with me back in the days either quit completely and now listen to Hip Hop or no music at all, or they are keeping busy by following the latest trend (like Electroclash last year, and minimal techno pop this year, and so on).</p><p></p><p>I think pianos & female vocals are just not compatible with the typical german clubber or raver (maybe it's the old cliché that we suffer of lack of humour and a tongue-in-cheek state of mind).</p><p></p><p>But there have been better times...like thev ery good period from 1991 up to 1994, when Paul Van Dyk and Kid Paul (aka Energy 52) were introducing us Krauts <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /> to some of the great, uplifting music coming from the UK and Italy, but listening to this kind of music has always been a little 'underground'. Hell, there even were some big tunes from Germany (Humate's Love Stimulation, Visions of Shiva's Perfect Day, and Energy 52's Cafe del Mar) Then, suddenly, it stopped completely as the music got a lot harder and faster, and then Paul Van Dyk and those other guys adjusted to what the crowd wanted (Van Dyk went to the UK, I guess you know the rest of the story), and Kid Paul quit music *completely* in 1996. </p><p></p><p>So, over the years, I have been watching the UK scene more than the german one, because I just liked the UK sound a lot more. I am coming from a hip hop background (up to the early 90s), and the first tunes that brought my attention to electronic music were breakbeat tunes (early moving shadow, warp, etc), so that's where I am coming from. That was around the same time when the Belgian techno started (Dominator, T99, etc.), and that's what attracted the masses here. Pianos and melodies didn't have a place here. Germans like arpeggiated trance melodies at a minimum of 150 BPM ;-)</p><p></p><p>And this german 'taste' of music has dominated up to today. Now, the rave scene is split up into a whole lot of miniscenes, there's a Drum'n'Bass scene, an electro scene, a minimal techno scene, a garage house scene, simply a scene for everything - and everybody is really uptight about which music is cool and which is not.. </p><p></p><p>And that bores me do death <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p>Also, you wouldn't believe - progressive (like Digweed, Seaman, Sasha, Satoshi Tomiie) is simply not happening over here. I don't think Sasha has even played in Germany more than 3 times...at least not in the last few years. </p><p></p><p>The only house that works here is garage house from the UK and US (like on Defected, Soulfuric, etc.), but not the progressive variant.</p><p></p><p>You see, it's not easy to have an english taste in music when living in Germany, but it can be still a lot of fun unless you want to go clubbing <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/classics/Headphones_anim.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":phones:" title="headphones :phones:" data-shortname=":phones:" /> </p><p></p><p>What about you guys - do you think what Sasha and the others play is a logical progression from the music they played in the early 90s? I really like some of the tunes (I usually get the Global Underground Mix-CDs, the James Lavelle one was pretty good), but it's far from giving me the same feeling as the great uplifting tunes from back in the days. One thing I am especially missing is the mixture of house and breakbeats, and nu skool breaks just doesn't do it for me (although there are good records in that genre).</p><p></p><p>Wow it's getting late - if you have any more questions about music over here, let me know...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="actual, post: 133346, member: 1038"] [b]Germany & electronic music[/b] Hi, and thank you for all the nice hello's ! Hmm, I don't know anybody besides me who's into this music. My M8s who were raving with me back in the days either quit completely and now listen to Hip Hop or no music at all, or they are keeping busy by following the latest trend (like Electroclash last year, and minimal techno pop this year, and so on). I think pianos & female vocals are just not compatible with the typical german clubber or raver (maybe it's the old cliché that we suffer of lack of humour and a tongue-in-cheek state of mind). But there have been better times...like thev ery good period from 1991 up to 1994, when Paul Van Dyk and Kid Paul (aka Energy 52) were introducing us Krauts :D to some of the great, uplifting music coming from the UK and Italy, but listening to this kind of music has always been a little 'underground'. Hell, there even were some big tunes from Germany (Humate's Love Stimulation, Visions of Shiva's Perfect Day, and Energy 52's Cafe del Mar) Then, suddenly, it stopped completely as the music got a lot harder and faster, and then Paul Van Dyk and those other guys adjusted to what the crowd wanted (Van Dyk went to the UK, I guess you know the rest of the story), and Kid Paul quit music *completely* in 1996. So, over the years, I have been watching the UK scene more than the german one, because I just liked the UK sound a lot more. I am coming from a hip hop background (up to the early 90s), and the first tunes that brought my attention to electronic music were breakbeat tunes (early moving shadow, warp, etc), so that's where I am coming from. That was around the same time when the Belgian techno started (Dominator, T99, etc.), and that's what attracted the masses here. Pianos and melodies didn't have a place here. Germans like arpeggiated trance melodies at a minimum of 150 BPM ;-) And this german 'taste' of music has dominated up to today. Now, the rave scene is split up into a whole lot of miniscenes, there's a Drum'n'Bass scene, an electro scene, a minimal techno scene, a garage house scene, simply a scene for everything - and everybody is really uptight about which music is cool and which is not.. And that bores me do death :D Also, you wouldn't believe - progressive (like Digweed, Seaman, Sasha, Satoshi Tomiie) is simply not happening over here. I don't think Sasha has even played in Germany more than 3 times...at least not in the last few years. The only house that works here is garage house from the UK and US (like on Defected, Soulfuric, etc.), but not the progressive variant. You see, it's not easy to have an english taste in music when living in Germany, but it can be still a lot of fun unless you want to go clubbing :phones: What about you guys - do you think what Sasha and the others play is a logical progression from the music they played in the early 90s? I really like some of the tunes (I usually get the Global Underground Mix-CDs, the James Lavelle one was pretty good), but it's far from giving me the same feeling as the great uplifting tunes from back in the days. One thing I am especially missing is the mixture of house and breakbeats, and nu skool breaks just doesn't do it for me (although there are good records in that genre). Wow it's getting late - if you have any more questions about music over here, let me know... [/QUOTE]
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