Rewriting the truth

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Feb 20, 2013
Following on from the 'most arse twitching club' thread, I think there's an important point here about received history and OSA has an important part to play in preserving a true version of events. As Orwell pointed out, once those who were there have gone what is written down becomes 'the truth'.

You could be excused for thinking from club culture historical texts that clubs were this big happy place where everyone danced as friends with strangers etc. As those who were there know this is utter bollocks. It might have been close to the truth in the early days when everyone was popping Es but certainly by the early to mid 90s, with the commercialisation, super clubs, introduction of alcohol and particularly the move away from E as the drug of choice into coke, clubs weren't that much different in the friendliness league from your average nightclub. Certainly not where I lived up north. And that's the house scene, other genres were even harder and downright dangerous in many cases unless you went out mob handed.

This is the actual truth as told by those who were there. The second summer of love bollocks was at best a fleeting period when the scene was mostly underground in the early days. By the time most people were into dance culture it was very far from being a luvvy place to spend an evening. Not saying it was shit, it was great, but let's record history as it was, not how we would maybe like it to have been.


Active member
Feb 2, 2008
I actually partly really agree with you, and you have made a very good point imo.
I will post my reply up later, being from my experinace has hip hop lad to a raver to a clubber, and also from putting events on myself
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Mar 21, 2005
Interesting and true there were the odd shady places, gangs selling you and your mates duds, but I was mostly oblivious to the bollocks that went on as I went to places to have fun and not looking for trouble.

Used to hear stories afterwards occasionally of mates, or someone you met at a house party, in the carpark etc who had bad nights,and I remember someone sticking a cig in my sleeve at Legends who I nearly knocked out until remembering why I was there, but I was mostly looking through roses tinted specs and loved up on gear. Most nights went without a hitch.

Obviously there was an underworld as there was serious money to be made, but if everybody thought and worried about the crime element then nobody would have gone out. The gear and music just transitioned, we started going to trendier clubs spending a small fortune on new clobber and entry fees and alcohol became more of a thing inside the club, rather than being the pre bar meet ups. We went from thinking "this is the future and it's fookin amazing" to drinking champagne in the Hacienda one night and me dancing with an actress from Corrie.